Viewing cable 04THEHAGUE1791
Title: UNGA 59: DUTCH CAUTION ON CLONING, DEMOCRACY

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04THEHAGUE17912004-07-16 12:54:00 2011-08-30 01:44:00 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy The Hague
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C O N F I D E N T I A L THE HAGUE 001791 
 
SIPDIS 
 
IO FOR LAGON; DRL FOR KOZAK; GENEVA FOR DELAURENTIS; USUN 
FOR SIV, TAMLYN, SPIRNAK, ZACK 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/14/2014 
TAGS: ECON PHUM KDEM AORC NL UNGA UN
SUBJECT: UNGA 59: DUTCH CAUTION ON CLONING, DEMOCRACY 
CAUCUS, MIDDLE EAST 
 
REF: A. STATE 152009 
     ¶B. THE HAGUE 1737 
 
Classified By: CLASSIFIED BY ANDREW SCHOFER, POLCOUNS, FOR REASONS 1.4 
AND D 
 
¶1.  (U) SUMMARY:  IO DAS Lagon shared Reftel A points with Karel van 
Kesteren, Director of UN affairs at the MFA, on July 12.  Poloff follow 
up on July 14 to get additional reactions and to receive a review of th 
EU's own paper (reported septel). 
 
¶2.  (C) The Dutch would support a ban on reproductive cloning but oppos 
the USG's sweeping opposition to all types of cloning.  The Dutch suppo 
the theories behind the Democracy Caucus and are cautiously willing to 
learn more about how it might work in practice.  Reducing Middle East 
resolutions in the current climate, however welcome, will not happen. 
Despite its merits, a stand-alone Anti-Semitism Resolution would confli 
with the broader, established resolution on Religious Intolerance, 
according to the Dutch.  Trafficking in persons is an area for 
collaboration, particularly relating to children.  So is "advancing 
economic freedom," a politically-charged formulation the Dutch prefer 
rendering as "private sector development."  End Summary. 
 
SUPPORTIVE ON ADVANCING ECONOMIC FREEDOM 
 
¶3.  (SBU)  Van Kesteren agreed completely with reftel points on Advanci 
Economic Freedom, although he preferred the title "private sector 
development." The latter seemed less threatening or politically charged 
those we are trying to convince, he said.  UN diplomats from some major 
developing countries seem stuck in a time warp, he noted, arguing again 
reftel points using old political theories discounted by finance and 
foreign ministers at home.  Now that there was consensus around reftel 
points, as demonstrated by the Monterrey Consensus and other agreements 
van Kesteren said we needed to find ways to help such Ministeries get t 
word to their UN diplomats in New York. 
 
SUPPORT FOR COMBATING TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS 
 
¶4.  (U)  DAS Lagon emphasized that this year, the USG would focus on 
stopping the exploitation of children and work for a resolution in 
addition to the Philippines resolution on trafficking.  Van Kesteren sa 
that focusing on children would be useful and would pose no problem for 
the Dutch since it fell outside our differences regarding the sex busin 
for adults. 
 
SKEPTICAL ABOUT PROMOTING THE DEMOCRACY CAUCUS 
 
¶5.  (SBU)  As reported Ref B, the Dutch are warily interested, albeit w 
a "degree of skepticism" in the Democracy Caucus DC) and are considerin 
if and how to be engaged in New York.  Van Kesteren told Poloff he was 
somewhat relieved by our explanation that the DC would augment, not 
replace, established UN groups. 
 
NO SUPPORT FOR BANNING ALL HUMAN CLONING 
 
¶6.  (C)  The Dutch regret that our effort (supporting the Costa Rican 
text) covers both reproductive and therapeutic cloning.  Van Kesteren s 
he was certain the UN could get action banning human cloning if it were 
taken up separately.  He predicted UNGA deadlock again this year, 
prompting the suggestion that a subsequent move to UNESCO's Bioethics 
Committee might be a way to get it off the UNGA agenda.  A measure that 
might be passed by a only narrow majority would not be useful, he said. 
The Dutch see merit in delaying discussions until after the US election 
he added. 
 
NO REDUCTION IN MIDDLE EAST RESOLUTIONS AND ANTISEMITISM RESOLUTION 
UNLIKELY 
 
¶7.  (C)  The USG would "run into our own wall at the UN this year" on 
Middle East resolutions, van Kesteren said.  The Dutch have consulted w 
the Palestinians in New York, who refuse to go along with consolidation 
since multiple actions "were one of their only ways of getting back at 
Israel."  It might be possible to look at the UNRWA resolutions, howeve 
A dedicated Resolution on Anti-Semitism in the Third Committee would be 
too hard to pull off, he said, and the EU wants to ensure passage of th 
Religious Intolerance Resolution which has anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, 
and Christianophobia references in it.  A stand-alone resolution would 
accrete references to other forms of intolerance, duplicating the other 
resolution, he concluded. 
 
COMMENT 
 
¶8.  (C)  The Dutch support half our UNGA proposals this year and 
characterized all of them as drawn with a broad brush, designed for 
politics and public consumption.  We have good friends in the Dutch who 
will tell us the truth as they see it this year in New York, even if it 
not always what we want to hear. 
RUSSEL