Viewing cable 04THEHAGUE1817
Title: UNGA 59: DUTCH CAUTION ON CLONING, DEMOCRACY

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04THEHAGUE18172004-07-20 05:53:00 2011-08-30 01:44:00 CONFIDENTIAL Embassy The Hague
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 THE HAGUE 001817 
 
SIPDIS 
 
USMISSION GENEVA IMMEDIATE 
USEU BRUSSELS IMMEDIATE 
EU MEMBER STATES IMMEDIATE 
 IMMEDIATE 
 
IO FOR LAGON; DRL FOR KOZAK; GENEVA FOR DELAURENTIS; USUN 
FOR SIV, TAMLYN, SPIRNAK, ZACK 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/14/2014 
TAGS: ECON PHUM KDEM AORC NL UNGA UN
SUBJECT: UNGA 59: DUTCH CAUTION ON CLONING, DEMOCRACY 
CAUCUS, MIDDLE EAST 
 
REF: A. STATE 152009 
 
     ¶B. THE HAGUE 1737 
 
Classified By: CLASSIFIED BY ANDREW SCHOFER, POLCOUNS, FOR REASONS 1.4 
B AND D 
 
¶1.  (U) SUMMARY:  IO DAS Lagon shared Reftel A points with 
Karel van Kesteren, Director of UN affairs at the MFA, on 
July 12.  Poloff followed up on July 14 to get additional 
reactions and to receive a review of the EU's own paper 
(reported septel). 
 
¶2.  (C) The Dutch would support a ban on reproductive cloning 
but oppose the USG's sweeping opposition to all types of 
cloning.  The Dutch support the theories behind the Democracy 
Caucus and are cautiously willing to learn more about how it 
might work in practice.  Reducing Middle East resolutions in 
the current climate, however welcome, will not happen. 
Despite its merits, a stand-alone Anti-Semitism Resolution 
would conflict with the broader, established resolution on 
Religious Intolerance, according to the Dutch.  Trafficking 
in persons is an area for collaboration, particularly 
relating to children.  So is "advancing economic freedom," a 
politically-charged formulation the Dutch prefer rendering as 
"private sector development."  End Summary. 
 
SUPPORTIVE ON ADVANCING ECONOMIC FREEDOM 
 
¶3.  (SBU)  Van Kesteren agreed completely with reftel points 
on Advancing Economic Freedom, although he preferred the 
title "private sector development." The latter seemed less 
threatening or politically charged to those we are trying to 
convince, he said.  UN diplomats from some major developing 
countries seem stuck in a time warp, he noted, arguing 
against reftel points using old political theories discounted 
by finance and foreign ministers at home.  Now that there was 
consensus around reftel points, as demonstrated by the 
Monterrey Consensus and other agreements, van Kesteren said 
we needed to find ways to help such Ministeries get the word 
to their UN diplomats in New York. 
 
SUPPORT FOR COMBATING TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS 
 
¶4.  (U)  DAS Lagon emphasized that this year, the USG would 
focus on stopping the exploitation of children and work for a 
resolution in addition to the Philippines resolution on 
trafficking.  Van Kesteren said that focusing on children 
would be useful and would pose no problem for the Dutch since 
it fell outside our differences regarding the sex business 
for adults. 
 
SKEPTICAL ABOUT PROMOTING THE DEMOCRACY CAUCUS 
 
¶5.  (SBU)  As reported Ref B, the Dutch are warily 
interested, albeit with a "degree of skepticism" in the 
Democracy Caucus DC) and are considering if and how to be 
engaged in New York.  Van Kesteren told Poloff he was 
somewhat relieved by our explanation that the DC would 
augment, not replace, established UN groups. 
 
NO SUPPORT FOR BANNING ALL HUMAN CLONING 
 
¶6.  (C)  The Dutch regret that our effort (supporting the 
Costa Rican text) covers both reproductive and therapeutic 
cloning.  Van Kesteren said he was certain the UN could get 
action banning human cloning if it were taken up separately. 
He predicted UNGA deadlock again this year, prompting the 
suggestion that a subsequent move to UNESCO's Bioethics 
Committee might be a way to get it off the UNGA agenda.  A 
measure that might be passed by a only narrow majority would 
not be useful, he said.  The Dutch see merit in delaying 
discussions until after the US elections, he added. 
 
NO REDUCTION IN MIDDLE EAST RESOLUTIONS AND ANTISEMITISM 
RESOLUTION UNLIKELY 
 
¶7.  (C)  The USG would "run into our own wall at the UN this 
year" on Middle East resolutions, van Kesteren said.  The 
Dutch have consulted with the Palestinians in New York, who 
refuse to go along with consolidation since multiple actions 
"were one of their only ways of getting back at Israel."  It 
might be possible to look at the UNRWA resolutions, however. 
A dedicated Resolution on Anti-Semitism in the Third 
Committee would be too hard to pull off, he said, and the EU 
wants to ensure passage of the Religious Intolerance 
Resolution which has anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and 
Christianophobia references in it.  A stand-alone resolution 
would accrete references to other forms of intolerance, 
duplicating the other resolution, he concluded. 
 
COMMENT 
¶8.  (C)  The Dutch support half our UNGA proposals this year 
and characterized all of them as drawn with a broad brush, 
designed for politics and public consumption.  We have good 
friends in the Dutch who will tell us the truth as they see 
it this year in New York, even if it is not always what we 
want to hear. 
RUSSEL