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Title: DAS KROL MEETS WITH TAJIK AND KYRGYZ FOREIGN

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 USOSCE 000276 
 
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SUBJECT: DAS KROL MEETS WITH TAJIK AND KYRGYZ FOREIGN 
MINISTERS AND LITHUANIAN POL DIRECTOR IN ATHENS 
 
REF: DUSHANBE 1364 
 
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Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Carol S. Fuller for reasons 1.4 (b) an 
d (d). 
 
SUMMARY 
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¶1. (C) In a series of meetings on the margins of the OSCE 
Ministerial Council in Athens on December 1, SCA DAS George 
Krol met with the Foreign Ministers of Kyrgyzstan and 
Tajikistan as well as the Political Director from the 
Lithuanian MFA ahead of Lithuania's 2011 Chairmanship of the 
OSCE.  Tajik FM largely complained about Uzbek behavior in 
withdrawing from the power grid while the Kyrgyz FM pushed 
for the Bishkek Initiative to play a role in addressing 
Afghanistan issues.  The Lithuanian Political Director 
offered insights into dealing with Kazakhstan as it embarks 
on its Chairmanship of the OSCE.  End summary. 
 
MEETING WITH TAJIK FOREIGN MINISTER 
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¶2. (C) At the outset, Tajik Foreign Minister Hamrohon Zarifi 
raised Uzbekistan's withdrawal from the Central Asia Power 
grid, which he said Uzbekistan did before winter as a 
calculated political move.  He said no one, including 
President Karimov, knows about the large number of 
electro-transmission lines in Tajikistan and at this rate, 
Tajikistan would be completely using its own power stations 
by May.  "We will suffer this winter, and the summer will 
also be bad."  Zarifi said that Tajikistan informed 
Turkmenistan about limits to the summer water flow, but that 
"no one will be able to convince President Karimov, it is not 
logical."  He said the Tajik President was tired of trying to 
explain things to Karimov and asked the U.S. to speak to the 
Uzbeks about the 'real situation.' 
 
¶3. (C) DAS Krol told Zarifi he discussed Uzbekistan leaving 
the power grid with both Uzbeks and Turkmen on a recent visit 
to the region.  He said Uzbek officials told him the 
situation "had been developing" and Uzbekistan felt it had to 
remove itself from the electrical grid because it was 
damaging their system (Ref A).  DAS Krol said Uzbek officials 
claimed the situation was not permanent and there would be 
developments to resolve it.  He also told Zarifi that Turkmen 
President Berdimukhamidov was sympathetic but realized the 
situation depended on Turkmenistan's relationship with 
Uzbekistan.  Krol said the U.S. would have further talks with 
Uzbekistan's senior leadership on the matter. 
 
¶4. (C) DAS Krol told Zarifi the U.S. looked forward to 
developing bilateral consultations with Tajikistan and added 
that in the first part of next year, the U.S. may try to 
bring a delegation to Dushanbe; he stressed, however, that 
there would need to be a clear agenda ahead of time.  On 
upcoming elections, Krol said he hoped the government 
welcomed the participation of election observers. 
 
¶5. (C) Zarifi asked for the U.S. to fully engage in supplying 
goods under the 'new agreement' and said Tajikistan will have 
more capacity to assist, in terms of infrastructure, from 
their airport, in the transmission of non-military goods to 
Afghanistan.  He also asked for help in eliminating 
anti-personnel mines on the border with Uzbekistan, which he 
said Uzbekistan did not want to recognize.  Zarifi said 
Tajikistan would like to construct a new bridge for which it 
needs serious support in constructing a transmission line 
through Afghanistan to Pakistan.  He added that Tajikistan 
also needed help with its minorities - as all their schools 
had closed. 
 
MEETING WITH KYRGYZ FOREIGN MINISTER 
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¶6. (C) In his meeting with Kyrgyz Foreign Minister Kadyrbek 
Sarbaev, the FM repeatedly emphasized Kyrgyz concerns that 
the U.S. was preparing to exit Afghanistan within the next 
three to five years.  He said it was essential to put stable 
and peaceful Afghan structures in place before a departure or 
the U.S. would leave behind an unruly, lawless state.  He 
said President Obama's plan to increase troop strength in 
Afghanistan was the correct decision, but also noted that 
solving the Afghan problem was not only a question of having 
military forces in place. 
 
THE BISHKEK INITIATIVE 
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¶7. (C)  Sarbaev stressed the Bishkek Initiative as a powerful 
 
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tool towards that end and said there were Taliban groups 
watching the initiative's progress, groups that were 
interested in coming to the table for dialogue.  DAS Krol 
asked Sarbaev whether he had discussed the Bishkek Initiative 
with either the Uzbeks or Kazakhs in light of their thoughts 
on discussions about Afghanistan.  Sarbaev replied that the 
Bishkek Initiative was not in competition with other 
proposals.  However, he noted that the Uzbek stance on 
bilateral talks (vice multilateral) was not a good approach. 
On the other hand, he felt that the Kazakh chairmanship of 
the OSCE next year would help make Afghanistan one of the key 
OSCE issues in 2010. 
 
¶8. (C) Asked about Chinese opinion on Afghanistan, Sarbaev 
said the Chinese were being cagey while they study the 
proposals at hand.  In his opinion, China will inevitably 
become involved - economic interests in the areas are too 
large for them not to do so.  He said small indications of 
such future Chinese involvement were already becoming evident 
through articles in Chinese press, and beyond. 
 
MEETING WITH LITHUANIAN POLITICAL DIRECTOR 
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¶9. (C) In DAS Krol's meeting with Lithuanian MFA Political 
Director Eitvydas Bajarunas and Ambassador at Large Rytis 
Paulauskas, the conversation largely focused on best ways for 
Lithuania to work with and manage Kazakhstan in the EU Troika 
in the next two years.  Calling Foreign Minister Saudabayev a 
"night and day" difference from former Kazakhstani Foreign 
Minister Tazhin, Bajarunas said the new state of affairs was 
"quite depressing."  In contrast to Saudabayev, Bajarunas 
said Tazhin was open minded, open to suggestion, would not 
hesitate to accept our ideas, and was accepting of the Human 
Dimension.  He said Tazhin was also open to the OSCE working 
in Afghanistan, but he feared Saudabayev was less so. 
 
¶10. (C) Bajarunas said the first real test of the Kazakhstani 
chairmanship would be seen in Kazakhstan's reaction to the 
approaching elections in Ukraine.  The second test will be 
the Geneva Talks and preserving the OSCE's role in the 
discussions.  Bajarunas said we will need to press Kazakhstan 
to be more creative on Georgia.  On OSCE involvement in 
Afghanistan, Bajarunas said Lithuania would be quite 
enthusiastic if Kazakhstan were to do something; especially 
to combat the major drug trafficking coming out of Central 
Asia. 
 
¶11. (C) Paulauskas said Lithuanian was looking for the best 
method of working with the Kazakhstanis in the OSCE Troika 
and developed an understanding that Kazakhstan reacted badly 
to anyone "trying to teach them."  While Kazakhstan very much 
wants to be (and wants to appear to be) independent of the 
Russian Federation, Bajarunas pointed out that the 
Kazakhstani Ambassador to the OSCE told him how much better 
he understood the Corfu Process after receiving a briefing 
from Russian diplomats.  He also said there was concern that 
Kazakhstan may use its year as Chair to try to downsize some 
of the OSCE missions in Central Asia; therefore, we will need 
continued engagement by the big powers, he said. 
 
¶12. (C) In closing, Bajarunas said the Lithuanians "want to 
continue to share their knowledge about Kazakhstan," but 
added that because Lithuania is not well positioned in 
Central Asia, the GOL would greatly appreciate U.S. briefings 
in Vienna on the situation in Central Asia.  DAS Krol assured 
of our willingness to do so and said Lithuanian Embassy 
officials in Washington were also welcomed to visit SCA. 
 
FULLER